My unaired comments to Ann and Emma.

Breenis Thu Jun 11, 2009 5:34 am

I call conspiracy, bitches.

Ann
Seeeeee? You were saying you had a hard time making your body look modelesque, but you totally did it here! Your legs and arms look long and lean. I think sitting is a good position for you because even though you're short, your legs are long. Love the use of the candy. I like that you're looking away from the camera because it seems innocent and fanciful, but I still would have liked to see a bit more intensity. You're starting out strong. I'm not going to make it a secret that you're my favourite. Haw haw.

Emma
I don't get why we all freely accuse other models (i.e. Amber, Audrey) of using old photos, when your photos tend to look like stuff you pulled out of your portfolio. It's pro as hell, and your pose is perfection, but it has NOTHING to do with the brief. Chris wins this one for me. You seem to want so badly to look like the professional model you are, but the raw-ness of the other models is lacking in you. As one of the best models here, you can afford to take a risk. You should be wearing a top hat and a 'stache and a monacle and making it fierce. Also, I failed to mention this last week because the others were so detremental I didn't care that much, but your shots seem porn-y. Not just sexy, porn-y. I'd like to see something besides your sexuality.

Joey-GaGa Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:09 am

Even though Emma is by far my favorite, I kind of understand what you mean.

I have a strong feeling she won't win simply because she's clearly the most modelesque, professional, and obvious choice to win out of the group that remains. I don't think SweetTyra and the rest of you judges would be THAT obvious on us, now would you? haha.

And can I just say that Xander and Ann need to gtfo? (*EDIT* I realize that sounded way too harsh, and I shouldn't have said "gtfo", apologies are due here *END EDIT*). I know that sounds rude, but I just don't see it at all in either of them.

norris6489-Vic Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:17 am

i like Ann. she's different and she actually wants this... unlike a lot of the other contestants. if i dont win, im rooting for Ann. i would root for jack, but i dont really know him.

Karasu Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:22 am

Joey-GaGa wrote:Even though Emma is by far my favorite, I kind of understand what you mean.

I have a strong feeling she won't win simply because she's clearly the most modelesque, professional, and obvious choice to win out of the group that remains. I don't think SweetTyra and the rest of you judges would be THAT obvious on us, now would you? haha.

And can I just say that Xander and Ann need to gtfo? I know that sounds rude, but I just don't see it at all in either of them.

I dont mean to argue,but is that really necessary? This competition is about having fun, not getting told to fuck off because you dont look like a model.

norris6489-Vic Thu Jun 11, 2009 6:29 am

i agree with everything kara just said. I also agree with Bree's comments on Emma. like... seriously? its a VERY good photo... but does it fit the brief? im not so sure.

Joey-GaGa Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:50 am

Karasu, don't get your panties in a bunch.

I'm just saying that I don't like either one of their photos. It's about having fun, yes, but there's also an element of having to please people visually as well, and neither one of them does it for me.

Lifey66 Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:31 am

Even though Emma is by far my favorite, I kind of understand what you mean.

I have a strong feeling she won't win simply because she's clearly the most modelesque, professional, and obvious choice to win out of the group that remains. I don't think SweetTyra and the rest of you judges would be THAT obvious on us, now would you? haha.

And can I just say that Xander and Ann need to gtfo? I know that sounds rude, but I just don't see it at all in either of them.

Joey-GaGa wrote:Karasu, don't get your panties in a bunch.

I'm just saying that I don't like either one of their photos. It's about having fun, yes, but there's also an element of having to please people visually as well, and neither one of them does it for me.

well despite the fact that YOU seem to think i'm ugly, i actually KNOW i'm attractive (not to sound arrogant. har har), but i think i represent the 'unusual' look that the original ANTM has always claimed to try to discover and unveil as beautiful. Besides, I think it rather says a lot that i have the confidence to put myself out here like this. I notice you're not modeling in this competition. You think i should just quit because i'm not YOUR particular brand of pretty? well i'm sorry that bra and panties and blonde isn't my style (no offense meant AT ALL to emma, because i think you're gorgeous and i definitely hold you in high regard as a fellow contestant, just saying, that that seems to be the style this guy is going for). and seriously 'gtfo' ? thats not was competition is about. if the models this cyle aren't to your tastes, why don't YOU 'gtfo' and start following a different cycle?

to victor: I say the same about you! if i don't win, my vote totally goes to you, because you've been the most welcoming contestant, and very friendly AND, naturally, i see so much potential in your photos.

to karasu: thank you.

to bree: as always, i was looking forward to, and appreciate your comments, critique, and support. its nice to have someone who believes in me and is willing to offer advice in such a sweet, and helpful way. You can count on me to improve for next week.

Jilpen Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:32 am

I like you Ann.

Lifey66 Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:36 am

Thank you, luv Smile

i also like how he singled out xander and i, when there are models who obviously didn't, or couldn't?, really try these past two shoots.

Jilpen Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:40 am

Kristen...I call her out all the time. She posted on here an awful lot for someone that didn't try on her photos...and to think she actually predicted she would come in 4th...and Jack would leave first because he wouldn't send anything in. Laughing

She was a hot mess...and not a funny one. She yelled at everyone too. Good riddance fake hot chick.

Lifey66 Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:42 am

i remember reading her bitch and moan about off topic comments. teehee. fake myspace ho.

*cough* oops that was...uh...bashing....sorry.

Jilpen Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:45 am

I laugh at her. She was such a hot mess...and I'm the one with a banana... Laughing

Why did she care about off topic posts anyway? She was only here to see guys...and when they all ended being gay, out of the competition, and not interested she left.

Lifey66 Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:47 am

so true!! haha. now THAT is TRUE modeling potential right there for sureeeee. *Snicker*
god jilly, why can't I measure up to that? WHY? I'm going to go become self destructive in a corner now.

Jilpen Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:48 am

Because you aren't a whore.

Lifey66 Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:50 am

i think i can live with that. Smile

Joey-GaGa Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:17 am

Um...Ann...please check the attitude right now.

I never called you ugly. Not once did those words come out of my mouth. When I said "visually pleasing", I meant turning out pictures that appealed to me. Your pictures don't appeal to me, and it's not because of your looks, it's because of what I'm seeing expressed in the photographs. I simply said I didn't like your pictures or Xander's. And the bit about me not modeling in the competition? Honey, I placed 4th in cycle 1, and I'm signed to an ACTUAL modeling agency, so it's my job to model. Please brush up on who you're talking to first before you make such statements.

And if you're going to "open yourself up" to this kind of thing and "put yourself out there", be prepared for people to, um, NOT like your pictures. When you "put yourself out there", there is always going to be people who don't like what you produce, and I don't like what you've produced. That's not to say I won't like any of your pictures, because I think you'll stay in the competition quite a bit longer. I didn't say "Oh my god, Ann is an ugly bitch who can't model worth shit. I hate her" I simply said I didn't think your pictures were good and I think you should be eliminated. That's my opinion. If you don't like that, maybe a competition where your pictures are JUDGED is not the best place for you to be. Saying "gtfo" was indeed a bit too harsh and I apologize, but please don't misunderstand me not liking your pictures for me calling you ugly, because there is a huge difference between the two.

Turn out some amazing pictures and make me eat my words. That would make me happy.

And I'm going to say it yet again, but a horrific double standard is at work here. People can say whatever they want about the girls on AusNTM, ANTM, CNTM, etc., and someone saying that Saleisha should "gtfo" would be perfectly acceptable, but me saying that you guys aren't exactly my cup of tea is suddenly the worst thing in the world? Please.

Oh, and I know that this is going to sound a little arrogant (and it is, but whatever) but when you refer to me as "this guy" and such, you're kind of referring to me in the sense that you don't realize that I've been talking with all of the people on here for longer than they've even known you existed. So don't reference me as "this guy" and whatnot. I just don't like it. I don't call you "that girl", I called you Ann. Please do the same for me and reference me as either "Joey" or "Milla" as I'm known, as I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I simply called you "that girl". Thank you.

Jilpen Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:22 am

This isn't going to turn into another Mimi things is it?

Joey-GaGa Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:24 am

Yes, Jilda, if Ann wants to get an attitude with me, you can tell her what she can expect because you know I don't take shit like that. I don't want to start anything, but if people are going to be combative and totally misunderstand what I say and then insult me, you best bet I'm going to explode.

I don't have anything against her, she just chose to immediately flip out and overreact to what I had to say. Maybe saying "gtfo" was a bit too harsh and I apologize for saying that, but I don't have a problem with her personally, she just doesn't do it for me in the competition. If she starts producing pictures that I like, I'll be the first one to say that I've changed my mind about her. But as of right now, I don't like her pictures. I didn't say she was ugly. She made that shit up.

Lifey66 Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:57 am

Joey-GaGa wrote:
Um...Ann...please check the attitude right now.

I never called you ugly. Not once did those words come out of my mouth. When I said "visually pleasing", I meant turning out pictures that appealed to me. Your pictures don't appeal to me, and it's not because of your looks, it's because of what I'm seeing expressed in the photographs. I simply said I didn't like your pictures or Xander's. And the bit about me not modeling in the competition? Honey, I placed 4th in cycle 1, and I'm signed to an ACTUAL modeling agency, so it's my job to model. Please brush up on who you're talking to first before you make such statements.

And if you're going to "open yourself up" to this kind of thing and "put yourself out there", be prepared for people to, um, NOT like your pictures. When you "put yourself out there", there is always going to be people who don't like what you produce, and I don't like what you've produced. That's not to say I won't like any of your pictures, because I think you'll stay in the competition quite a bit longer. I didn't say "Oh my god, Ann is an ugly bitch who can't model worth shit. I hate her" I simply said I didn't think your pictures were good and I think you should be eliminated. That's my opinion. If you don't like that, maybe a competition where your pictures are JUDGED is not the best place for you to be. Saying "gtfo" was indeed a bit too harsh and I apologize, but please don't misunderstand me not liking your pictures for me calling you ugly, because there is a huge difference between the two.

Turn out some amazing pictures and make me eat my words. That would make me happy.

And I'm going to say it yet again, but a horrific double standard is at work here. People can say whatever they want about the girls on AusNTM, ANTM, CNTM, etc., and someone saying that Saleisha should "gtfo" would be perfectly acceptable, but me saying that you guys aren't exactly my cup of tea is suddenly the worst thing in the world? Please.

Oh, and I know that this is going to sound a little arrogant (and it is, but whatever) but when you refer to me as "this guy" and such, you're kind of referring to me in the sense that you don't realize that I've been talking with all of the people on here for longer than they've even known you existed. So don't reference me as "this guy" and whatnot. I just don't like it. I don't call you "that girl", I called you Ann. Please do the same for me and reference me as either "Joey" or "Milla" as I'm known, as I'm sure you wouldn't like it if I simply called you "that girl". Thank you.

Yes, Jilda, if Ann wants to get an attitude with me, you can tell her what she can expect because you know I don't take shit like that. I don't want to start anything, but if people are going to be combative and totally misunderstand what I say and then insult me, you best bet I'm going to explode.

I don't have anything against her, she just chose to immediately flip out and overreact to what I had to say. Maybe saying "gtfo" was a bit too harsh and I apologize for saying that, but I don't have a problem with her personally, she just doesn't do it for me in the competition. If she starts producing pictures that I like, I'll be the first one to say that I've changed my mind about her. But as of right now, I don't like her pictures. I didn't say she was ugly. She made that shit up.

Alright lets start at the beginning of your first post: you’ve been in the competition before? Interesting… I hadn’t heard of you. Since you were a competitor at one point, however, you of all people should know that Intm is an amateur competition, so perhaps you ought to rethink your attitude towards this cycle. An you say you’re signed? Again…funny how I haven’t heard of you.

More importantly, as to your critique of personality, saying maybe being judged isn’t for me? That I can’t take criticism? You’re completely wrong, I absolutely can. Have you heard me bitch and moan at the judges for their CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICSM of my admittedly imperfect photos? No! I’m using them to grow. You’re comments, however, have been nothing but trivial, immature, borderline bashing, which I will not tolerate. Since when is responding to comments regarding myself ‘not being able to take criticism’? This ties into my supposed ‘attitude’. I assure you I have no attitude. Perhaps my confidence conveys differently over text than it would verbally, but again, it is merely defending my honor, as it were, since you’ve seemed to call my legitimacy of being in this competition into question with your ‘gtfo’ comment.

As to the issue of the double standard? You did not back up your ‘gtfo’ comment at all with any true evidence of Xander nor my supposed incapability to be in the competition. When I dislike an antm (etc) contestant, I at least verbalize my dislike of them on something substantial. Generally this particular issue brought up by you is irrelevant.

I really don’t care what you call me, or what I call you. I did address you directly in the first part of my post, and in the parenthetical where I referred to you as ‘this guy’, I was doing so to a different contestant, in an obvious reference to you. In context it was perfectly reasonable, however since you are so sensitive to it, I shall henceforth refer to you as whatever you like. Oh and the fact that these people have known you longer than I? I fail to see the relevancy.

Again, I assure you I take no attitude with you, just a justification of my own existence, and an expression of my personal feelings. If anything, you seem to be taking an attitude with me. “Drama” is the last thing I expected to stir on Intm, and I hope this isn’t the start of it, however if that is what you wish to encite, I assure you I am no intimidated by you in the least.

Jilpen Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:01 am

Ya'll both are hookers so stop arguing....This is Tyra's competition anyway. You both are clowns...like Fo. Stop fighting before I give you something to fight about. I'm the mama.

Lifey66 Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:02 am

I'm not going to take anything regarding myself lying down. its absolutely ridiculous, that me defending myself is suddenly 'getting an attitude' and gives leave to stir up drama. wtf?

Joey-GaGa Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:07 am

I was willing to talk about this with you, but now I'm starting to think that bitch, you crazy. Nothing that I said was trivial, bashing, or immature. Simply because you don't like what I have to say, you get immediately defensive. I flat out said I didn't like your photos, and basically said in a much more blunt way that I think you should be eliminated. If you don't like that, then you definitely don't belong in a modeling competition. If you don't like the fact that one person doesn't like your pictures, I seriously doubt your ability to even participate in a "fun" modeling competition where some of the judges (like Bree's initial post on this thread about Emma, for that matter) have said far worse things than I just said. That's not to say that what Bree said about Emma was wrong, it's just that we are able to state our opinions without people getting horrifically defensive and taking it personally. I didn't say I didn't like you, I didn't say you were a bitch, I didn't say you were ugly, I said very bluntly that I didn't like your photos and that you should be eliminated. You don't like that? Tough shit.

And just because you haven't heard of me doesn't mean I haven't accomplished the things you think you're so cleverly mocking about me.

And your insanity is only futher proven by your willingness to jump to conclusions. You seem to think I'm on some kind of personal rampage against you, calling you ugly when I did no such thing, and my main goal is apparently to incense you into some fit of message board drama. Honey, your totally unwarranted defense spaz-out prompted this "drama", so check yourself in tha mirrah before you go accusing me of doing the very things you're cooking up yourself.

And you're not defending yourself, you're becoming ridiculously defensive and bitchy for no reason, there's a difference. I didn't attack you.

Jilpen Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:10 am

Hookas...That's What Ya'll Are...Hookas...

Joey-GaGa Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:10 am

We're hookas? You got any sheesha, my Jilda?

Lifey66 Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:12 am

I'm sorry you feel that way.

You yourself, however are jumping to conclusions about me.

I'm sorry for whatever misunderstanding has occurred here, for apparently neither of us can communicate it effectively (Being that I know you don't understand what i was trying to convey with my last few posts, and apparently I haven't understood you).

Again, the main issue I took with your original post is that I felt you didn't substantiate your 'gtfo' comment with any analysis of my photos whatsoever.

P.S. I don't feel bitchy, i wasn't raised to be bitchy, i wasn't trying to be bitchy. i'm sorry i've made a bad impression on you.

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